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Debunking Right-Wing Email Forwards

A college roommate of mine has turned into a Republican, and keeps sending broadcast Outdoor emails of right-wing propaganda to his friends and family. I’ve developed a habit of hitting reply-all to his emails and offering a counter-point to his emails with no response so far. What does this mean?

Does it mean that he was set straight and is somewhat embarrassed about sending the original email? Or does it mean he disagrees with my response but doesn’t want to debate the issue any further? Not sure. Here’s the latest. It reads from the bottom, with my response at the top:


Subject: RE: story

“Let’s begin by acknowledging that all is not perfect in Iraq. Crime rates are high, almost as high as New York City’s.” – Caspar Weinberger

Let’s begin by acknowledging that Caspar Weinberger’s first lie in this article was the very first stat that he cited. Over the 28 day period from October 26-November 23rd, there were 38 people murdered in NYC, and 80 US Military killed in Iraq. Of course, this doesn’t include the hundreds, if not thousands of Iraq civilians that were also killed over that same time period.

Don’t believe me? Check the stats:

If you have to lie to make a point, your point wasn’t made. Sorry Caspar.

This was a sorry attempt to change the topic AWAY from why we’re in Iraq in the first place. The Bush administration’s case for going to war with Iraq was based on fabricated links between wholesale nba jerseys Sadam Hussein and Al-Quaida, along with a State of the Union speech given by Bush where he told the whole country that Sadam had weapons of mass destruction including chemical weapons which could be armed and launched in as little as 45 minutes. We now know that this is complete bullshit, and it’s cost our country well over $100,000,000,000 to support these lies. Why does this administration have the audacity to insult countries who saw through the lies and decided not to put their own citizens at risk to support Haliburton’s war?

With an election Conservative coming up, I can see why Caspar is trying to put a positive spin on the billions of dollars spent and hundreds of Americans killed this year without capturing Sadam Hussein or Osama bin Laden (remember him?).

If Forbes is a part of the “liberal Big Media” why didn’t they do some fact checking on Caspar’s piece before publishing it? Who do you think owns Forbes?

Here’s a hint to people buying into this crap: Do you think your average out of work (or underemployed wholesale nfl jerseys or uninsured) American gives a rip about the living conditions of your average Iraqi? Get real. It’s a losing issue for Republicans.

Take care, and support our troops.


—–Original Message—–
From: Matt A. [mailto:—–@———–.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 1:06 PM
To: ———-; ———-; ———-; ———-; ———-; ———-; ———-; ———-;
Subject: FW: story

Please pass this on…

—–Original Message—–
From: ———-
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 12:26 PM
To: ———-; ———-; ———-; ———-; ———-; ———-; ———-; ———-; ———-; ———-; ———-; ———-; ———-; ———-; ———-; ———-; ———-; ———-; ———-; ———-; ———-; ———-; ———-; ———-; ———-; ———-; ———-; ———-; ———-; ———-; ———-; ———-; ———-; ———-; ———-; ———-; ———-; ———-; ———-;
Subject: FW: story

—–Original Message—–

From: T. & D. Y.[SMTP: ———-@ ———]

Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 9:28 AM

To: ———-; ———-; ———-;

Subject: Fw: story


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> — — —-




> If all the information below doesn’t convince you that “big media” is


> to hide the successes of the Bush administration in Iraq, nothing will.


> Why don’t we hear any of this from any of the networks? Are they all that

> incompetent that they can’t see it, or is it that they choose to ignore


> All they want you to hear is the bad stuff.


> Remember, “big media” is really just part of “big entertainment” and the

> liberal Democratic party. And there is an election coming up…..





> Current Events

> You Read It Here First

> Caspar Weinberger, 12.08.03, 12:00 AM ET


> One of the problems of our postwar results in Iraq is that most of the

principal U.S. press outlets have been reporting, to the exclusion of almost

anything else, the negative events since our military stunningly toppled

Saddam Hussein’s brutal regime. It’s time to redress the balance and present

our readers Personal with some facts that demonstrate how well America’s goals in

Iraq are being achieved.


> Let’s begin by acknowledging that all is not perfect in Iraq. Crime rates

are high, almost as high as New York City’s. Our forces have had to deal

with the depredation and senseless destruction loosed on the country by some

100,000 of Iraq’s criminals, whom Saddam released from jail shortly before

our troops went in.


> What we are seeing now is the uniform disdain and ill-founded criticisms

of those who opposed the war from the beginning; those who, because of next

year’s presidential election, oppose everything the Administration or

President Bush does or says; and those countries, such as France and

Germany, that are angered by any suggestion of American success anywhere and

which fear their huge and improvident prewar loans to Iraq may not be

repaid. Many of these countries are also motivated by equally tawdry reasons

of trade.


> But despite all the negative reportage there is a great deal of good

news–especially for those who hope to see a free and democratically led

Iraq living in peace with itself and its neighbors.


> Education


> Nearly all of Iraq’s schools are open, and data from 10 of the primary and

secondary schools showed an encouraging increase in enrollment. All 22

universities and 43 technical institutes are also open. In October

universities received 1,500 computers, and South Korea is helping establish

Internet centers.


> Teachers now earn 12 to 25 times their former salaries. The Economist

reported that before the war a Baghdad primary school teacher was paid the

equivalent of $6 a month; her husband, a factory overseer, earned $13 a

month. Kuba Today their combined monthly income is close to $450; for the first

time they are able to buy many standard consumer goods.


> Public Health


> All 240 hospitals and 1,200 primary health clinics are open. Spending for

public health is more than 26 times what it was wholesale mlb jerseys during Saddam’s regime, and

doctors’ salaries are 8 times what they were. More than 22 million vaccine

doses have been given to children, and more than two-thirds of drinking

water supplies have been restored.


> Security


> By Oct. 24 we had trained some 85,500 Iraqis: 55,000 police; 6,400 border

guards; an 18,700-man Facilities Protection Corps; 700 new Iraqi Army

graduates, with the goal of 27 battalions trained in a year; a 4,700-man

Civil Defense Corps; and an additional 10,000 Iraqis in training for these

forces. In addition, 32 countries have more than 24,000 troops on the ground

in Iraq, including the Polish-led wholesale mlb jerseys forces that are in command of the

south-central part of the country.


> Our training and recruiting personnel have had to deal with the fact that,

in order to survive, most Iraqis had to have had some association with or

given some support to Saddam and his Baathist Party regime. It Hugh is therefore

slow work ensuring that those we are training are suitable for the work in

the new Iraq.


> Public Services


> Years of neglect wreaked major damage on Iraqi water, power and sewerage

systems. All are being repaired and improved. Oil production, even from

oilfields urgently in need of modernization following decades of calculated

neglect, averaged 1.9 million barrels a day in October and is moving closer

to the prewar level of 3 million.


> Power generation reached 4,518 megawatts of electricity in early October,

compared with 300 megawatts, prewar. Three-fourths of the prewar level of

telephone service has been restored.


> The courts are in session, and some 50,000 claims against the old

government have been filed with the bar association.


> A new currency has been issued and the independent central bank opened two

months after the war ended. It took three years for post-WWII occupied

Germany to do this.


> The Future


> On July 13 Coalition Provisional Authority Administrator Paul Bremer

appointed the all-Iraqi Governing Council. On Nov. Mullet 15 the CPA and the

Council committed to a political timetable for Iraq. As the White House

announced, the plan “meets a key mutual objective of the Coalition and the

Iraqi people: the restoration of sovereignty to a body chosen by the

citizens of Iraq and based in a legal framework. It also commits Iraq to a

process for drafting a permanent, democratic constitution that protects the

rights of all citizens.”


> On Nov. 6 President Bush signed the Iraq and Afghanistan supplemental

appropriations bill into law. This will bring $87 billion to our global war

on terror. It will help support our servicemen and -women with weapons,

equipment and salaries; build stable democratic societies in these two

countries, as well as train and equip those citizens who are fighting to

defend and secure their rights; upgrade schools and hospitals; and repair

infrastructure and improve services, such as water, electricity and



> It wasn’t until last month that papers began reporting on the progress

that’s been made in Iraq. We must keep in mind that it has been only seven

months since our military brought down Saddam and that it will take time for

the Iraqis to build the foundation for a free, self-governing country.


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