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		<title>By: RobinHood</title>
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		<dc:creator>RobinHood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 09:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Working Men:

What a horrible trick this yellow page idiot played on you...but there is a very intelligent and POWERFUL way to permanently correct the situation (and its legal, too).

It sounds like you guys care a lot about your jobs and are hard workers. It also sounds like you receptionist is pleasant on the phone to people. And you have good products. My friends...that and a plain phone number listing is ALL YOU NEED to conduct a profitable business. That listing should be free, or close to it...maybe $15 bucks a month. CANCEL EVERYTHING ELSE YOU HAVE IN THE PHONE DIRECTORY--CUT THE DISPLAY AND COLOR ADS OUT. So many business owners have been hoodwinked into believing that they need a full page, full color ad in every heading even remotely related to their business--and every cent of profit is being sucked out of their business by these same rude yellow pages people.

Do you know of any other product on the planet that could survive if it were GROSSLY over-priced--and increased cost yearly, did NOT produce a fair return on investment, and was peddled by the most Rude and Arrogant people on Earth? OF COURSE NOT!! You can stop it all by standing up and saying NO MORE...just a line listing please!!! It is happening everyday across the country--and the businesses go right on being profitable or holding their own without the Bloated Yellow Page Ads. THAT will stop the D-Bag who punked you!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Working Men:</p>
<p>What a horrible trick this yellow page idiot played on you&#8230;but there is a very intelligent and POWERFUL way to permanently correct the situation (and its legal, too).</p>
<p>It sounds like you guys care a lot about your jobs and are hard workers. It also sounds like you receptionist is pleasant on the phone to people. And you have good products. My friends&#8230;that and a plain phone number listing is ALL YOU NEED to conduct a profitable business. That listing should be free, or close to it&#8230;maybe $15 bucks a month. CANCEL EVERYTHING ELSE YOU HAVE IN THE PHONE DIRECTORY&#8211;CUT THE DISPLAY AND COLOR ADS OUT. So many business owners have been hoodwinked into believing that they need a full page, full color ad in every heading even remotely related to their business&#8211;and every cent of profit is being sucked out of their business by these same rude yellow pages people.</p>
<p>Do you know of any other product on the planet that could survive if it were GROSSLY over-priced&#8211;and increased cost yearly, did NOT produce a fair return on investment, and was peddled by the most Rude and Arrogant people on Earth? OF COURSE NOT!! You can stop it all by standing up and saying NO MORE&#8230;just a line listing please!!! It is happening everyday across the country&#8211;and the businesses go right on being profitable or holding their own without the Bloated Yellow Page Ads. THAT will stop the D-Bag who punked you!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Stewart</title>
		<link>http://www.thedeets.com/2009/11/20/yellow-pages-sales-gone-bad/#comment-16560</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Stewart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 01:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ed, 

Another good one. Although I still believe there is a tremendous amount of use of the yellow pages, I also agree with Ed that folks who DO NOT WANT a PHONE BOOK should not be solicited and littered with a copy. Just like everything else, it should be subscription based and not delivered via saturation distribution. Opt Out should not be the standard ( although you try and it has been proven that they would all take chances on you possibly keeping the trash ) the industry needs to skip Opt Out and go straight to Opt In. I don&#039;t see it happening. Too many jobs and too many CEOs getting paid. It is the nature of big business. Funny thing is the entire industry stinks due to fraud, greed, bankruptcy, financial fiasco, sales tactics and cronyism. Out with the old and in with the new. Just don&#039;t let them attempt to make the same margins on internet as they have done in print. Won&#039;t work! 

Coming from someone that &quot;sold&quot; yellow page ads from age 19 to 28..... I don&#039;t think Eds actions of putting the books back on the lawn of the yellow page company is all too terrible. 

The question is..... DOES ED HAVE THE RIGHT TO REMOVE BOOKS OFF NEIGHBORS LAWNS AND DOORSTEPS? Do the companies have the right to litter people&#039;s homes with the books? The industry is to blame. It only happened due to the monopoly---------&gt; duopoly ----------&gt; and not inundation of competition in the YP industry. Too many books. They need to start monopolizing and innovating. I personally think the industries talent needs to migrate into local ad agencies. No hope long term as they cut commissions, raise budgets, and reduce benefits. 

Cheers, 
Mike Stewart</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ed, </p>
<p>Another good one. Although I still believe there is a tremendous amount of use of the yellow pages, I also agree with Ed that folks who DO NOT WANT a PHONE BOOK should not be solicited and littered with a copy. Just like everything else, it should be subscription based and not delivered via saturation distribution. Opt Out should not be the standard ( although you try and it has been proven that they would all take chances on you possibly keeping the trash ) the industry needs to skip Opt Out and go straight to Opt In. I don&#8217;t see it happening. Too many jobs and too many CEOs getting paid. It is the nature of big business. Funny thing is the entire industry stinks due to fraud, greed, bankruptcy, financial fiasco, sales tactics and cronyism. Out with the old and in with the new. Just don&#8217;t let them attempt to make the same margins on internet as they have done in print. Won&#8217;t work! </p>
<p>Coming from someone that &#8220;sold&#8221; yellow page ads from age 19 to 28&#8230;.. I don&#8217;t think Eds actions of putting the books back on the lawn of the yellow page company is all too terrible. </p>
<p>The question is&#8230;.. DOES ED HAVE THE RIGHT TO REMOVE BOOKS OFF NEIGHBORS LAWNS AND DOORSTEPS? Do the companies have the right to litter people&#8217;s homes with the books? The industry is to blame. It only happened due to the monopoly&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&gt; duopoly &#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-&gt; and not inundation of competition in the YP industry. Too many books. They need to start monopolizing and innovating. I personally think the industries talent needs to migrate into local ad agencies. No hope long term as they cut commissions, raise budgets, and reduce benefits. </p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Mike Stewart</p>
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		<title>By: The Other Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Other Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 03:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LM = &quot;Just because they’re doing something disagreeable doesn’t justify us doing something disagreeable, even if it’s not as bad.&quot;

Actually LM, it does.

You see, none of us ever wanted YP delivered, it was an add-on/carryover from decades ago that has not evolved with the changes in technology and culture.  It is a dinosaur that refuses to go to the museum to observe it&#039;s remaining value to society.

Ed here has tried their opt-out plan at all three of these worthless YP dealers and none have honored their own opt-out scheme.  So, what is left...prayer?  Legal action?  Legislative action?

Face it...agreeable action was ignored, and thus this is the time for disagreeable action.  If you find it disagreeable, go ahead and try to be the voice of reason to the YPers and see how far you get.  I wonder how long before you are tossing books at the YP suburban putting green.  At this point, it is the least they deserve, and if some office park maintenance guy has to scoop it up, hey at least it is a job, probably even has benefits, which is more than the YP delivery people have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LM = &#8220;Just because they’re doing something disagreeable doesn’t justify us doing something disagreeable, even if it’s not as bad.&#8221;</p>
<p>Actually LM, it does.</p>
<p>You see, none of us ever wanted YP delivered, it was an add-on/carryover from decades ago that has not evolved with the changes in technology and culture.  It is a dinosaur that refuses to go to the museum to observe it&#8217;s remaining value to society.</p>
<p>Ed here has tried their opt-out plan at all three of these worthless YP dealers and none have honored their own opt-out scheme.  So, what is left&#8230;prayer?  Legal action?  Legislative action?</p>
<p>Face it&#8230;agreeable action was ignored, and thus this is the time for disagreeable action.  If you find it disagreeable, go ahead and try to be the voice of reason to the YPers and see how far you get.  I wonder how long before you are tossing books at the YP suburban putting green.  At this point, it is the least they deserve, and if some office park maintenance guy has to scoop it up, hey at least it is a job, probably even has benefits, which is more than the YP delivery people have.</p>
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		<title>By: Ale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:55:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad you all agree- unwanted phonebooks stink!

Sign the petition at Phonebookfree.org

We&#039;re working on it :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad you all agree- unwanted phonebooks stink!</p>
<p>Sign the petition at Phonebookfree.org</p>
<p>We&#8217;re working on it <img src='http://www.thedeets.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ed Kohler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed Kohler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 00:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@LM, to be clear, I didn&#039;t say that all YP books are going to unwilling recipients. Every book that&#039;s delivered to someone who has no plans to use it is a waste of the working man&#039;s time. I&#039;m not anti-phone book. Just anti-delivery of phone books to those who have no longer use them. No one complains about receiving something they find valuable. 

If littering yellow pages at a yellow pages company&#039;s office is wrong, I don&#039;t want to be right. The best way to stop me would be to solve the YP delivery problem so I can shut up about it.

I think I see how you&#039;d find value in me confronting someone in a local office, but I think we both know that they&#039;re also the &quot;working man&quot; within much larger organizations, so expressing my opinions face to face with them gains nothing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@LM, to be clear, I didn&#8217;t say that all YP books are going to unwilling recipients. Every book that&#8217;s delivered to someone who has no plans to use it is a waste of the working man&#8217;s time. I&#8217;m not anti-phone book. Just anti-delivery of phone books to those who have no longer use them. No one complains about receiving something they find valuable. </p>
<p>If littering yellow pages at a yellow pages company&#8217;s office is wrong, I don&#8217;t want to be right. The best way to stop me would be to solve the YP delivery problem so I can shut up about it.</p>
<p>I think I see how you&#8217;d find value in me confronting someone in a local office, but I think we both know that they&#8217;re also the &#8220;working man&#8221; within much larger organizations, so expressing my opinions face to face with them gains nothing.</p>
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