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	<title>Comments on: StarTribune Advertising Information</title>
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		<title>By: Ed Kohler</title>
		<link>http://www.thedeets.com/2009/10/16/startribune-advertising-information/#comment-12312</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Kohler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 15:11:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Daniel, the beauty of auto-refreshing pages is the ability to decrease value for both readers and advertisers at the same time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Daniel, the beauty of auto-refreshing pages is the ability to decrease value for both readers and advertisers at the same time.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://www.thedeets.com/2009/10/16/startribune-advertising-information/#comment-12311</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Mike
Who is the customer?  You or the advertiser? :-)</description>
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Who is the customer?  You or the advertiser? <img src='http://www.thedeets.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: The Other Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.thedeets.com/2009/10/16/startribune-advertising-information/#comment-12310</link>
		<dc:creator>The Other Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 12:53:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is another take on auto-refresh--the reader&#039;s, the potential customer whose clicking makes ads marketable--I hate it and will leave websites because of it.

If the content was interesting, but the annoying wig-wag of the refresh causes me to lose my place reading, then I might cut-n-paste the content into a text pad so I can finish reading it in peace.  But usually I use this as a checkpoint and acknowledge continued reading is wasting my time and I leave.

And sites like the Strib, who are reknown for being the most annoying users of refresh...I never read them and haven&#039;t for at least 2 years.  Turns out 99% of their content can be easily found elsewhere where page refreshes don&#039;t exist.

My advice is simply to ask website managers who is REALLY paying the bills.  I think it is the customers/readers, so why drive them away in a vain attempt to tease them into clicking an ad when they are trying to enjoy the content of your page?  Is it greed, insecurity, or plain stupidity?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is another take on auto-refresh&#8211;the reader&#8217;s, the potential customer whose clicking makes ads marketable&#8211;I hate it and will leave websites because of it.</p>
<p>If the content was interesting, but the annoying wig-wag of the refresh causes me to lose my place reading, then I might cut-n-paste the content into a text pad so I can finish reading it in peace.  But usually I use this as a checkpoint and acknowledge continued reading is wasting my time and I leave.</p>
<p>And sites like the Strib, who are reknown for being the most annoying users of refresh&#8230;I never read them and haven&#8217;t for at least 2 years.  Turns out 99% of their content can be easily found elsewhere where page refreshes don&#8217;t exist.</p>
<p>My advice is simply to ask website managers who is REALLY paying the bills.  I think it is the customers/readers, so why drive them away in a vain attempt to tease them into clicking an ad when they are trying to enjoy the content of your page?  Is it greed, insecurity, or plain stupidity?</p>
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		<title>By: ryanl</title>
		<link>http://www.thedeets.com/2009/10/16/startribune-advertising-information/#comment-12306</link>
		<dc:creator>ryanl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:52:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That would be my guess, rotating the banners each time.</description>
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		<title>By: Ed Kohler</title>
		<link>http://www.thedeets.com/2009/10/16/startribune-advertising-information/#comment-12302</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Kohler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 19:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So to fit 16 ads into 4 slots, they auto-refresh the page to generate 4X more inventory?</description>
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