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	<title>Comments on: Pissed Off Verizon Yellow Pages Recipient Vents</title>
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		<title>By: Volly</title>
		<link>http://www.thedeets.com/2008/10/20/pissed-off-verizon-yellow-pages-recipient-vents/#comment-18462</link>
		<dc:creator>Volly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 22:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do what I do. Call them up, and tell them they either have to pick it up, or you will send them a bill for disposal. If they don&#039;t do it, I bill them $125 for my trouble. I do not have a land line, so I see no reason for them sending me this trash.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do what I do. Call them up, and tell them they either have to pick it up, or you will send them a bill for disposal. If they don&#8217;t do it, I bill them $125 for my trouble. I do not have a land line, so I see no reason for them sending me this trash.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Kohler</title>
		<link>http://www.thedeets.com/2008/10/20/pissed-off-verizon-yellow-pages-recipient-vents/#comment-11492</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Kohler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 13:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@johnny, complainers are people who think their lives would be slightly better if they didn&#039;t have to deal with crap they never asked for in the first place. You could probably prevent people from complaining by treating them with respect. 

Unfortunately, the Yellow Pages industry appears to be incapable of treating people respect. At least, that&#039;s my conclusion based on the fact that they fight to keep states from mandating opt-out systems.

Your comparison to the mail falls short. Direct mail companies are more than willing to remove people from their lists when requested to do so. Their businesses thrive or fail based partly on the quality of the lists they maintain. They&#039;ve paid based on response, so mailing only those who may potentially respond makes financial sense. 

The yellow pages, on the other hand, appear to be running on a media model where their rates are based on perceived distribution rather than direct response. Being able to say they deliver to every home in a community appears to be important to them, even if that means delivering to vacant properties and homes of people who&#039;ve informed the companies that they no longer used their print directories.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@johnny, complainers are people who think their lives would be slightly better if they didn&#8217;t have to deal with crap they never asked for in the first place. You could probably prevent people from complaining by treating them with respect. </p>
<p>Unfortunately, the Yellow Pages industry appears to be incapable of treating people respect. At least, that&#8217;s my conclusion based on the fact that they fight to keep states from mandating opt-out systems.</p>
<p>Your comparison to the mail falls short. Direct mail companies are more than willing to remove people from their lists when requested to do so. Their businesses thrive or fail based partly on the quality of the lists they maintain. They&#8217;ve paid based on response, so mailing only those who may potentially respond makes financial sense. </p>
<p>The yellow pages, on the other hand, appear to be running on a media model where their rates are based on perceived distribution rather than direct response. Being able to say they deliver to every home in a community appears to be important to them, even if that means delivering to vacant properties and homes of people who&#8217;ve informed the companies that they no longer used their print directories.</p>
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		<title>By: johnny</title>
		<link>http://www.thedeets.com/2008/10/20/pissed-off-verizon-yellow-pages-recipient-vents/#comment-11483</link>
		<dc:creator>johnny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 04:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>maybe all the complainers do not understand the classification for a phone book,well it would seem to be classified as mail, whether it is first class mail, bulk mail, or bound printed matter mail,this is up to the complainer to figure out, get a life</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>maybe all the complainers do not understand the classification for a phone book,well it would seem to be classified as mail, whether it is first class mail, bulk mail, or bound printed matter mail,this is up to the complainer to figure out, get a life</p>
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		<title>By: johnny</title>
		<link>http://www.thedeets.com/2008/10/20/pissed-off-verizon-yellow-pages-recipient-vents/#comment-11482</link>
		<dc:creator>johnny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 04:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>not sure what all the fuss is about, does the complainer understand how much trash the usps delivers to him and everybody else in a years time,it is understood, we all just want a check in the mail,this would be something to complain about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>not sure what all the fuss is about, does the complainer understand how much trash the usps delivers to him and everybody else in a years time,it is understood, we all just want a check in the mail,this would be something to complain about.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Kohler</title>
		<link>http://www.thedeets.com/2008/10/20/pissed-off-verizon-yellow-pages-recipient-vents/#comment-10313</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Kohler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 22:16:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes in pa, the reason I think you work for Idearc is because you commented from an Idearc IP address. Then, after I alluded to this, you switched to commenting from your Blackberry. Put that together with choosing to comment on an Idearc related YP post, it just smells like you&#039;re associated with the company. 

That plumber scenario receives so much action, they should consider renaming the yellow pages, &quot;the plumber&#039;s helper.&quot;

It seems like the &quot;going to turn on your computer&quot; line is going to get tired as well. It&#039;s becoming more common for people to never turn their computer off at home unless it starts to run like crap or perhaps overnight or during the work day while they&#039;re gone. In a race to look up a number, yellow pages probably fare pretty well vs. a Windows box that has to boot. But that&#039;s not the reality of many environments these days. And people could also access the same information without getting off the couch if their phone, cell phone, smartphone, itouch, etc. is within reach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes in pa, the reason I think you work for Idearc is because you commented from an Idearc IP address. Then, after I alluded to this, you switched to commenting from your Blackberry. Put that together with choosing to comment on an Idearc related YP post, it just smells like you&#8217;re associated with the company. </p>
<p>That plumber scenario receives so much action, they should consider renaming the yellow pages, &#8220;the plumber&#8217;s helper.&#8221;</p>
<p>It seems like the &#8220;going to turn on your computer&#8221; line is going to get tired as well. It&#8217;s becoming more common for people to never turn their computer off at home unless it starts to run like crap or perhaps overnight or during the work day while they&#8217;re gone. In a race to look up a number, yellow pages probably fare pretty well vs. a Windows box that has to boot. But that&#8217;s not the reality of many environments these days. And people could also access the same information without getting off the couch if their phone, cell phone, smartphone, itouch, etc. is within reach.</p>
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