Comments on: MinnPost.com Pre-Launch Tech Revisit http://www.thedeets.com/2007/09/04/minnpostcom-pre-launch-tech-revisit/ Consistently against torture. Thu, 09 Feb 2012 21:36:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: MinnPost.com’s RSS is Getting Better » The Deets - Ed Kohler's Blog http://www.thedeets.com/2007/09/04/minnpostcom-pre-launch-tech-revisit/#comment-2765 MinnPost.com’s RSS is Getting Better » The Deets - Ed Kohler's Blog Wed, 19 Sep 2007 23:13:00 +0000 http://www.thedeets.com/2007/09/04/minnpostcom-pre-launch-tech-revisit/#comment-2765 [...] still like to see permalinks (#7) to news releases. Without permalinks, it’s impossible to link to specific news stories. I [...] [...] still like to see permalinks (#7) to news releases. Without permalinks, it’s impossible to link to specific news stories. I [...]

]]> By: The Other Mike http://www.thedeets.com/2007/09/04/minnpostcom-pre-launch-tech-revisit/#comment-2671 The Other Mike Wed, 05 Sep 2007 15:56:56 +0000 http://www.thedeets.com/2007/09/04/minnpostcom-pre-launch-tech-revisit/#comment-2671 Seems to me they are trying to make online world work like a newspaper instead of the other way around. Wake up Minnpost, take some of that seed money and hire REAL web talent. The internet has matured and 'content is king' will only get you so far without the proper online platform and surrounding web mechanisms in place. You MIGHT have the content, but you definitely do not have the right website. If you do not hire online people who know how to showcase it, you still lose. Deets, remember in our old SEM days when a submission would come in for some website that had a great product and solid online niche, and we would get excited by the potential and knock their doors down with marketing ideas... ...Only to find out that all our suggestions were being routed from Uncle Bob (who was the money and product guy) to nephew Jerry (who was the 'web guy')... ...And the web guy only knew (insert your MN nice verbal assessment of some archaic html software here)... ...And Jerry would refuse to accept any of our SEM marketing advice--because he didn't know how to (insert your MN nice assessment for his lack of website talent here) do that with his software, but he wasn't (ditto) smart enough to admit his limitations and instead he would just say our ideas stunk... ...And Bob was too (insert your MN nice assessment of his lack of business acumen here) to realize his website was worthless with Jerry as the webmaster... ...Then 180 days later when we would do our followups, we would find out the website no longer existed and the product was no where to be found (online or elsewhere)? Yeah, that is what this reminds me of. A great idea with solid online potential, but in the hands of (insert your MN nice assessment here) people who are unwilling to learn from experts in the field, or implement suggestions even when they are pointed out to them. But, why should we care, eh? It is not like anyone's job is depending on this Minnpost website, right? Seems to me they are trying to make online world work like a newspaper instead of the other way around. Wake up Minnpost, take some of that seed money and hire REAL web talent. The internet has matured and ‘content is king’ will only get you so far without the proper online platform and surrounding web mechanisms in place.

You MIGHT have the content, but you definitely do not have the right website. If you do not hire online people who know how to showcase it, you still lose.

Deets, remember in our old SEM days when a submission would come in for some website that had a great product and solid online niche, and we would get excited by the potential and knock their doors down with marketing ideas…

…Only to find out that all our suggestions were being routed from Uncle Bob (who was the money and product guy) to nephew Jerry (who was the ‘web guy’)…

…And the web guy only knew (insert your MN nice verbal assessment of some archaic html software here)…

…And Jerry would refuse to accept any of our SEM marketing advice–because he didn’t know how to (insert your MN nice assessment for his lack of website talent here) do that with his software, but he wasn’t (ditto) smart enough to admit his limitations and instead he would just say our ideas stunk…

…And Bob was too (insert your MN nice assessment of his lack of business acumen here) to realize his website was worthless with Jerry as the webmaster…

…Then 180 days later when we would do our followups, we would find out the website no longer existed and the product was no where to be found (online or elsewhere)?

Yeah, that is what this reminds me of. A great idea with solid online potential, but in the hands of (insert your MN nice assessment here) people who are unwilling to learn from experts in the field, or implement suggestions even when they are pointed out to them.

But, why should we care, eh? It is not like anyone’s job is depending on this Minnpost website, right?

]]> By: kohler http://www.thedeets.com/2007/09/04/minnpostcom-pre-launch-tech-revisit/#comment-2662 kohler Wed, 05 Sep 2007 00:00:22 +0000 http://www.thedeets.com/2007/09/04/minnpostcom-pre-launch-tech-revisit/#comment-2662 Nice catch on the non-www issue. Minnpost.com, <a href="http://www.stepforth.com/faq/non-www-redirect.htm" rel="nofollow">here's a link</a> to how you can fix that up. Nice catch on the non-www issue. Minnpost.com, here’s a link to how you can fix that up.

]]> By: Aaron http://www.thedeets.com/2007/09/04/minnpostcom-pre-launch-tech-revisit/#comment-2661 Aaron Tue, 04 Sep 2007 21:36:59 +0000 http://www.thedeets.com/2007/09/04/minnpostcom-pre-launch-tech-revisit/#comment-2661 I've been following MinnPost pretty closely for awhile. I look forward to the writing. I like many of the journalists. ...but they're not going to be any better or that much different than a StarTribune.com, CityPages.com, TwinCities.com or MPR's news pages. They seem open to new technology but at the heart they don't really get it. From everything I've seen and heard, I don't think they have anyone working for them that knows how to capture loyalty online as well as getting organic visitors. ...and <a href="http://minnpost.com/" rel="nofollow">http://minnpost.com/</a> doesn't even work. Heh. I also thought it was strange that the images are left out of the RSS feed as well as the truncation. WTH? Granted, they haven't launched yet. So I'll give them more slack until they launch. They seem rather promising for a newspaper, but they don't seem very promising to be an online media organization. I’ve been following MinnPost pretty closely for awhile. I look forward to the writing. I like many of the journalists.

…but they’re not going to be any better or that much different than a StarTribune.com, CityPages.com, TwinCities.com or MPR’s news pages. They seem open to new technology but at the heart they don’t really get it. From everything I’ve seen and heard, I don’t think they have anyone working for them that knows how to capture loyalty online as well as getting organic visitors.

…and http://minnpost.com/ doesn’t even work. Heh.

I also thought it was strange that the images are left out of the RSS feed as well as the truncation. WTH?

Granted, they haven’t launched yet. So I’ll give them more slack until they launch. They seem rather promising for a newspaper, but they don’t seem very promising to be an online media organization.

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